Alhaji Shettima Yerima |
Alhaji Shettima Yerima, an activist
and president of the Arewa Youth Consultative Forum wonders why the
federal government is yet to arrest ex-governor of Borno State, Ali
Modu Sheriff whom he considers a prime suspect in the Boko Haram
insurgency. The youth leader who describes the president's new
initiative, the Almajiri School as crazy also canvasses for the
establishment of Arewa Ministry in order to tackle the myriad of
problems confronting the north. Excerpts.
You were in
Kaduna and some parts of the north recently, what was the level of
destruction?
The problem of
northern Nigeria did not start today, that is why I disagree with
those saying that it was because Jonathan was President hence some
people were making it difficult for him to govern the country.It
started after independence. The situation has always been going from
bad to worse and now it is indescribable. It has come to a point
for people to be recruited by any kind of group to foment trouble in
order to survive. Nobody could have imagined that at 52 Nigeria
would have a case of suicide bombers. It is a clear indication that
something went wrong. These people did not just wake up one day to
become what they are. They have been there since the days of
Obasanjo. We have been told that when the leader of this group was
arrested, prominent politicians were among those who bailed him
saying they were not from this country. This said leader of the group
was used to achieve political gains. But at a point he became a
problem between government and these politicians. We now have a
situation where an average armed robber goes to the bank and now
calls himself Boko Haram. Somebody killed his political opponent and
it is called Boko Haram. People take advantage of this situation
because there is an existing group calling itself Boko Haram who were
aggrieved because certain injustice had been meted out on their
leader. So, the situation has gone beyond Boko Haram. Some of those
arrested are not even Muslims, like the case of Bauchi, Damaturu that
even a security officer was involved. There was a situation in
Yenagoa where somebody was dressed like a Muslim to bomb a church,
only to find out that he was not from the north, he was not a Muslim
just because he had a disagreement with his Pastor. If you put all
these together, you will discover that a lot of things are happening.
When I look at people, bringing sentiment into it and accusing the
north, I feel bad. I get worried that people don’t see beyond what
is happening. Nobody is witch-hunting the southerners in the northern
part of the country. The bomb does not know an Hausa man or a
southerner. Once they put it in a public place, people will die not
minding whether he is an Hausa or Ibo man.
But there were
cases of church bombings?
Even the mosques
were affected. Sometimes in Jos, over 300 people were killed in a
Mosque. Was there any propaganda about that? It was an eid-il-Maolud
day, when the gunmen killed about 300 people on the floor of a
mosque.Which religion supports violence? None, Islam does not allow
for violence. The Prophet does not declare war on the Christians.
They are called ‘People of the Book’. In the north, we know how
many die daily. Recently, there was a bomb in a Mosque in Fagge
Central Mosque, Kano, but for the grace of God, it was found before
it went off by security agents, suspects were arrested. Just because
somebody is bent on fanning the embers of religious violence and
declare war! An Imam was killed on a Friday Prayer in Kano, nobody
talked about that. How many Imams have they killed now? We must learn
to be just to stories.
What are the
leaders and elders in the north doing to assist government in
bringing this to an end?
If you follow the
issue, you will see that a lot of elders have condemned this act on
several occasions. The Elders forum, ACF condemned it. The Elders
Forum as a body that complements other organisations is working under
the leadership of Maitama Sule to ensure that this issue of violence
is brought to an end. They have raised a fundamental issue, only God
knows why the government cannot arrest Ali Modu Sheriff. They said
the best way to solve this issue is to show sincerity in treating
this issue. Government should have arrested the prime suspect of that
incident who was the Chief Security Officer of that state, who could
have instructed the killing of the leader of that group. If Yusuf was
alive today, he would have told us a lot of stories about this group.
An instruction must have been passed; the police could not have
pulled the trigger after the Army handed him over to them; somebody
must have given the instruction either from Abuja or from the State.
You think followers will fold their hands when their leader is
killed. Of course they will react. If I am killed today as a leader
of an organisation, there are tendencies that people will react. We
are not saying Yusuf was right or wrong, but they would have allowed
justice to prevail. So, government should have arrested Sherriff
except they have any other thing they are hiding or perhaps like
Jonathan said that the Boko Haram members are in his government. Then
who will be held responsible if government is involved. I agree with
his statement, the former NSA also said it, unfortunately, they
sacked him unceremoniously after what he had done for this nation. If
not for anything, he should be commended for sustaining the unity of
the country. He inherited the problem. The problem started from
Muktar, during the Yar’Adua government, so it has nothing to do
with a Niger Delta man. This is a problem that affects Nigeria as a
whole and not only the northern part of the country.
The media are
witnesses to high rate of beggars on the streets, how does begging
become part of Islam or a culture of a Hausa man. No! People were
forced into it because they have no means of livelihood. We have had
opportunities to make Nigeria a better place to live through our
leaders. But today they deserve to be stoned in public because they
are part and parcel of this problem in the north. The same media
celebrate them. This is not right! We cannot move further until we
tell ourselves the truth. We cannot do anything, until we are able to
reflect on the past, present and champion a new cause for a better
Nigeria.
So, what in your
own view are the short and long term solution?
The government is
not ready for the short term but a long term by opening Almajiri
school. That is crazy. Yes. Tell me one person that is not an
Almajiri in Nigeria. Today the constitution has made the Federal
government stronger and the states weaker. Anything you want to do,
you have to go to Abuja and lobby for it. In fact, if you want to be
your local government chairman, you have to lobby for it in Abuja, no
matter your credibility or acceptability. So, who is not an Almajiri.
The Vice President himself will have to lobby. The day he falls in
the black book of the first lady, he is finished. If they don’t
remove his security, they make sure he doesn’t do any major job.
They make him redundant. The system has succeeded in making everybody
a beggar to survive. The day they discover you are a threat to them,
they will destroy you and make you subservient to them. That is why
you see people often times compromise because they want power. Even
those who call themselves progressives change tunes the moment they
get into power. Look at Obasanjo and Atiku after 2003 election. The
latter was more of a spare tyre that does not function simply because
the president does not want to see his face. So, the problem in the
northern part of the country requires a total overhaul and you can't
do it all at once, there are short measures to take rather than
creating Almajiri school.
The concept of the
Almajiri is that they are children of poor people, beggars and less
privileged of the society. You cannot compound the problem by carving
them out of the society. What they would have done is to integrate
them into the existing public schools; give them free education at
primary and secondary school levels and enact a law to make it
compulsory for every child to go to school and make the parents
liable for it. You are doing it to protect our future. When the Niger
Delta case came up, we thought it was only Niger Delta until it
spread to other parts of the country in form of kidnapping, rape and
terrorism. Today, by extension that was what gave birth to what we
are seeing today. The belief is that if the language of violence is
only what the government understands, if you take up guns, they
respect you, honour you, then they will fester in it. Boko Haram will
come and go someday but what will happen in other regions. Nigeria
has a way of creating trouble without knowing how to get out of it.
May be the government will one day think it. We also need Arewa
Ministry to address the major problems. In fact that is our focus
now, we will demand for it and we will achieve it. That will take
care of our own affairs just like we have the Ministry of Niger
Delta. Who knows, maybe, someday the Yoruba will decide to have
Oodudua Ministry and the South East will declare for Ibo or Ohaeneze
Ministry, Massob and so on. But I think the regional government would
have been better with the situation we now find ourselves. People are
not happy with the system. The system is not working for Nigeria.
The president said in his last Media chat that he cannot declare his
assets.
That takes us to
2015, what is your take about whether or not Jonathan should contest
in 2015?
It is too early to
talk about 2015, but what we are seeing and the situation, he does
not deserve a second chance and I don't think the vote of the
South-South alone can make Jonathan President in 2015. Unless they
want to do that to break the country to impose him on Nigerians.
Every section of this country is tired and disappointed with this
government. We were part of the struggle that made this government.
The Niger Deltans were never in the forefront for Jonathan realising
this dream. When the Save Nigeria Group was formed, they were just
few that came. We were more in number than them. The South West moved
the idea and some of us came and we insisted that he must be an
acting President. If he hadn’t been the acting President, perhaps,
it would have been a different story today. We pushed, under the
leadership of Tunde Bakare, I was one of the strongest voices in the
North. Despite my relationship with the government, and my background
as a northerner, I stood behind him demanding that due process must
be followed. The constitution must be respected no matter how
lopsided it is. Of course I have my reservation with the
constitution. That is our legal document but it lacks legitimacy. We
stood, we fought and we marched, mobilised people to Abuja and Lagos.
That was what gave birth to doctrine of necessity that brought
Jonathan as an acting president. Election came and people mobilised
from all parts of the country for Jonathan. We believe that he had a
different background compared to the old crooks and we said, let us
try a new thing. But if this is how people who went to school without
slippers suffer and become leader only to produce this kind of
government, then we will never go for people who go to school without
slippers. It does not worth it. We thought, he was part of the
society, he had seen poverty; he came like every other average
Nigerian being somebody who had a dose of it, he would make an
impact in the lives of common Nigerians. But now the situation has
degenerated from bad to worse. Then somebody will tell me that it
is either he becomes president or they break Nigeria, to hell with
that threat. We can no longer be threatened but the right thing must
be done. Nobody is afraid of anybody and nobody must use anything to
blackmail or threaten anybody. Time will tell, 2015 is at hand. We
have learned our lessons, we have seen the government of the Ijaws by
the Ijaws and for the Ijaws. And when they see us, they abuse us,
abuse our elders without respecting the fact that we were part of the
struggle that made Jonathan. Nobody is afraid of death, death comes
but once. A man in you dies the moment you saw tyranny and you could
not speak. We must speak and if we die in the course of speaking, so
be it.
How is the north
preparing for 2015 then?
We are mending
fences with our christian brothers in the northern part of the
country, the Hausa Fulanis. We are trying as much as we can to unite
ourselves and speak with one voice, like the legacies left behind by
our founding fathers. Sir Ahmadu Bello never castigated anybody, no
matter the religious or tribal differences. He was able to bring
every body on board. That is what we are doing.
You said earlier
that the constitution lacks legitimacy, what do you mean?
The 1999
constitution lacks legitimacy in the sense that the making of that
constitution was totally wrong. There was no time Nigerians sit at
any conference to produce that document. Few people sat down during
the Military era under AbdulSalami Abubakar to arrive at it, even his
number two man, Mike Akhigbe was not part of it. He is alive today,
if that is not true, I challenge him to speak. They rushed it up and
bogged it with so many decrees to protect their interests and that of
their cronies; impose it on Nigerians and called it 1999
Constitution. It lacks legitimacy because there was no input of all
Nigerians. I am not a lawyer but I know the difference between
legitimacy and legal document. All Nigerians must be seen to have
representative who will come to make their position clear in it. Less
than 15 military officers and few civilian cronies sat down to
produce it. That is not done, no constitution in the whole world was
made like that. We challenge that legitimacy and we are still
challenging it in the Federal High Court Abuja. We are not saying it
is not a legal document, but its legitimacy is what we are
challenging. The National Assembly can make laws but they cannot make
constitution. There is difference between the two. The legitimacy
makes it un-amendable.